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Cubia said:

I think we parted ways with that in the last years. FGO has been exclusively dealing with the past, with the Age of Gods at their high being the common place since 6th Singularity. The latest entries in the series have focused quite a bit on Divine Spirits, sci-fi or pre-modern times: The Adventure of Lord-El Melloi deals with Divine Spirits and Age of Gods magecraft from the start. Fate/Samurai Remnant, while past the peak of the Heian era, features quite a few divine Servants, including Divine Spirits. Fate/Extra's remake is going to be pure sci-fi. Requiem has limits and no real masquerade, including Divine Spirit servants. Fate/Strange Fake had a Divine Spirit as one of the major antagonists and most of the main Servants are quite close with divinity. Even Fate/Lost Einherjar is using servants that were the last to walk between the final split of the Age of Man and the Age of Gods of their culture.

Even the ones that are still rooted in 'urban fantasy' like Tsukihime:Re, are running on such a scale that it's hard to keep it that way.

I would say that the only Type-Moon work that is pure urban fantasy and isn't heavy on Age of Gods stuff right now would be Redline.

Alza said:

I don't expect Elmo to relitigate a return to the AoG stuff when it did in the climax of the last series. So I expect Adentures to eventually part ways with the AoG stuff, because to embrace that stuff is to reject modernity. Despite how futile it may be, modern mages have accepted their decline, that's part of the reason they throw themselves to their craft and didn't sit in a hole ignoring the present like the guys at the Wandering Sea.

But the Wandering Sea is a very nice and magical hole.

Also, I doubt we are going to stop seeing Age of God stuff so soon when we are 7 volumes in and we still don't have seen Wuzhiqi's true form and we are still missing the final god core of Ergo (which may be revealed in the next volume, but still). Since it is not the same plot of trying to forcibly bring back the Age of Gods, those who use it have been seen on a better light than Heartless' by the series. We are also missing the final creator of Ergo.

Like, after 8+ volumes of Ergo, it's not like the final volumes can be about anything else but him.

CrossingArcadia said:

That isn't really what the normal course of things seems to be, considering that the Olympians were cool with the planet, as well as other aliens. Not to mention how in the Epilogue to Extella, we are apparently getting alien visitors in the Moon Cell. More over, the goal of Marisbury is said by Daybit to be something that would make humanity the Villains to the rest of the galaxy/space, which implies, you know, we wouldn't be without that plan.

Mankinds expansion isn't about making everything conform to us, its about humanity growing. We learn from impossible things and make them possible to us. The only thing that really conforms is the planet itself, as that is what it choses to do. Nothing else, from the Moon, Mars or any of the other planets seems to give a sh*t about the expansion of the Human Order.

People like to say that the Nasuverse is HFY, and it is to the extent that it talks a lot about how mankind is amazing and has incredible potential, but it also believes in humanity being fundamentally good at its core. By the time we are expanding through space freely, the idea in the Nasuverse is that we have grown beyond what we are now, having conquered our own evils, not the weird idea that some people have that the humanity is an elderich abomination that will consume countless civilizations in its gluttonous growth.

I don't think that it is going to be a fully hegemonizing swarm sort of thing, but the elements with Voyager's expansion of the Human Order and all the allusions to the Age of Will growing to very large distances implies that it will have some kind of expansion that will paint the cosmos in humanity's light.

Also, we don't even know if Marisbury's plan is expansionistic, since Daybit painted it more about securing humanity's place in the cosmos rather than expanding over it. So it seems to be something of a more bad taste than a threat to other civilizations.

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